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	<title>Comments on: Hate Crimes Demand a Special Response</title>
	<link>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/24/hate-crimes-demand-a-special-response/</link>
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		<title>By: dennis hammond</title>
		<link>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/24/hate-crimes-demand-a-special-response/#comment-738</link>
		<author>dennis hammond</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/24/hate-crimes-demand-a-special-response/#comment-738</guid>
					<description>No Jim, ANY crime against people should be
   dealt with SEVERELY!!!!!!!!!!!
   Violent crime period, what's the term?
   Oh, yeah, NOT TOLERANCE.

   To pick and chose WHICH violent crime deserves touch punishment is to minimize any
   violent crime.

   And whose soft on violent crime?

   Liberals.

   People deserve their just desert and their
   must be a deterant factor.  A few public
   hangings down at Civic Center park and
   violent crime would disapear (or at least
   the perpetrators)

   My heart went out to this poor child.  They
   need to throw away the key on these animals</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Jim, ANY crime against people should be<br />
   dealt with SEVERELY!!!!!!!!!!!<br />
   Violent crime period, what&#8217;s the term?<br />
   Oh, yeah, NOT TOLERANCE.</p>
<p>   To pick and chose WHICH violent crime deserves touch punishment is to minimize any<br />
   violent crime.</p>
<p>   And whose soft on violent crime?</p>
<p>   Liberals.</p>
<p>   People deserve their just desert and their<br />
   must be a deterant factor.  A few public<br />
   hangings down at Civic Center park and<br />
   violent crime would disapear (or at least<br />
   the perpetrators)</p>
<p>   My heart went out to this poor child.  They<br />
   need to throw away the key on these animals</p>
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		<title>By: Wildflower</title>
		<link>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/24/hate-crimes-demand-a-special-response/#comment-742</link>
		<author>Wildflower</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 02:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/24/hate-crimes-demand-a-special-response/#comment-742</guid>
					<description>Well, since public hangings in the park are illegal, perhaps we can make the perpetrators disppear into the bowels of prison forever.Particularly if they are put in close proximity with Crips or Bloods..let the punishment fit the crime. The courts need to make a strong statement on this case to thwart future cases of hate crimes. No matter what they do, it won't be enough to make up for the torment this girl has gone through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, since public hangings in the park are illegal, perhaps we can make the perpetrators disppear into the bowels of prison forever.Particularly if they are put in close proximity with Crips or Bloods..let the punishment fit the crime. The courts need to make a strong statement on this case to thwart future cases of hate crimes. No matter what they do, it won&#8217;t be enough to make up for the torment this girl has gone through.</p>
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		<title>By: noidea</title>
		<link>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/24/hate-crimes-demand-a-special-response/#comment-748</link>
		<author>noidea</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/24/hate-crimes-demand-a-special-response/#comment-748</guid>
					<description>I have to hand it to you Dennis.  You are single handedly driving me to the other side of these debates and my affiliations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to hand it to you Dennis.  You are single handedly driving me to the other side of these debates and my affiliations.</p>
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		<title>By: dennis hammond</title>
		<link>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/24/hate-crimes-demand-a-special-response/#comment-751</link>
		<author>dennis hammond</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/24/hate-crimes-demand-a-special-response/#comment-751</guid>
					<description>All I"m saying noidea is that we go
     back to frontier justice.  A speedy
     trial and a speedy hanging.  Look what
     the Wildflower generation has gotten us.
     RAMPANT violent crime.  Face it, as a 
     nation we are soft on violent crime
     meanwhile we lock people up for smoking
     a joint.  IT"S IDIOTIC

     I guarantee you if we got tough on violent
     offenders they'd think twice. What happens
     to them now, prison with their friends
     where they get free medical, dental
     cable TV they can pump weights and confer
     with other bad apples get out and do it
     all over again.  Our system of crime and
     punishment has become a JOKE. There is
     no DETERANT.  If you call that enlighten-
     ment I say it's prety dark.  Especially
     for these victims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I&#8221;m saying noidea is that we go<br />
     back to frontier justice.  A speedy<br />
     trial and a speedy hanging.  Look what<br />
     the Wildflower generation has gotten us.<br />
     RAMPANT violent crime.  Face it, as a<br />
     nation we are soft on violent crime<br />
     meanwhile we lock people up for smoking<br />
     a joint.  IT&#8221;S IDIOTIC</p>
<p>     I guarantee you if we got tough on violent<br />
     offenders they&#8217;d think twice. What happens<br />
     to them now, prison with their friends<br />
     where they get free medical, dental<br />
     cable TV they can pump weights and confer<br />
     with other bad apples get out and do it<br />
     all over again.  Our system of crime and<br />
     punishment has become a JOKE. There is<br />
     no DETERANT.  If you call that enlighten-<br />
     ment I say it&#8217;s prety dark.  Especially<br />
     for these victims.</p>
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		<title>By: usersuz</title>
		<link>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/24/hate-crimes-demand-a-special-response/#comment-755</link>
		<author>usersuz</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 02:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/24/hate-crimes-demand-a-special-response/#comment-755</guid>
					<description>So was it a hate crime based on race? Or on gender? They may have called her N-----, but they raped her. Is there a law to cover hate crimes against women? Shouldn't rape be considered a hate crime (almost exclusively) against women? One of these people was a former boyfriend of hers. Are we perhaps overlooking the most prevalent hate crime of all in the U.S.?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So was it a hate crime based on race? Or on gender? They may have called her N&#8212;&#8211;, but they raped her. Is there a law to cover hate crimes against women? Shouldn&#8217;t rape be considered a hate crime (almost exclusively) against women? One of these people was a former boyfriend of hers. Are we perhaps overlooking the most prevalent hate crime of all in the U.S.?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Spencer</title>
		<link>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/24/hate-crimes-demand-a-special-response/#comment-757</link>
		<author>Jim Spencer</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/24/hate-crimes-demand-a-special-response/#comment-757</guid>
					<description>Guys,
I just nuked a Dennis comment because he compared another commenter to an earth worm. I remind you all to stick to the issues. We can have a lively discussion WITHOUT PERSONAL ATTACKS. STOP CALLING EACH OTHER NAMES.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys,<br />
I just nuked a Dennis comment because he compared another commenter to an earth worm. I remind you all to stick to the issues. We can have a lively discussion WITHOUT PERSONAL ATTACKS. STOP CALLING EACH OTHER NAMES.</p>
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		<title>By: dennis hammond</title>
		<link>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/24/hate-crimes-demand-a-special-response/#comment-758</link>
		<author>dennis hammond</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/24/hate-crimes-demand-a-special-response/#comment-758</guid>
					<description>All I can say is I call them like I 
      see them.  Someone who doesn't have
      the spine to allow society to dispense
      justice (capital punishment) but would
      rather defer to gang members in prison
      (crips and bloods) to mete out "justice"
      is indeed some sort or invertibrate.
      Take your pick.
   
      Editing that comment absolutely went
      over the Liberal censorship line.

      Especially
      by someone who defended our President
      to be defiled, very distastefully
      and very disrespectfully in a public
      newspaper.  Typical Liberal hypocrisy.
      You people are the censors, you people
      are the deniers of civil rights.
      
      Here's the difference between Liberals
      and Conservatives.  Liberals are
      concerned primarily 
      with words and ideas, intangibles.
      Why, because they are "social engineers"
      who's main goal is to manipulate society,
      to control what it THINKS.
      For instance: What was the mindset of
      these people torturing this poor girl
      in Charleston?  Did their thoughts 
      reflect on a societal belief which is
      frowned upon by the Liberal 
      intelligencia?  Does it reflect on 
      society in general?  "Hatred" of 
      minorities, women?  Some victim group?

      Conservatives want law and order, people
      to be safe and some kind of order in 
      society, the thinking and motivation of
      lawbreakers is irrelevant.  That's their
      business but punishment for those 
      responsible for crimes against people
      is critical is society is to maintain
      law and order.  Hence, just
      as Spencer said: SOME violence is WORSE
      than other.  Why?  Because it attacks
      sponsored societal beliefs imposed by
      the Liberal elite. The individual 
      matters not, it's the COLLECTIVE!

      That is warped thinking. That is 
      I'm going to use another bad word here)
      SOCIALISM  You guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I can say is I call them like I<br />
      see them.  Someone who doesn&#8217;t have<br />
      the spine to allow society to dispense<br />
      justice (capital punishment) but would<br />
      rather defer to gang members in prison<br />
      (crips and bloods) to mete out &#8220;justice&#8221;<br />
      is indeed some sort or invertibrate.<br />
      Take your pick.</p>
<p>      Editing that comment absolutely went<br />
      over the Liberal censorship line.</p>
<p>      Especially<br />
      by someone who defended our President<br />
      to be defiled, very distastefully<br />
      and very disrespectfully in a public<br />
      newspaper.  Typical Liberal hypocrisy.<br />
      You people are the censors, you people<br />
      are the deniers of civil rights.</p>
<p>      Here&#8217;s the difference between Liberals<br />
      and Conservatives.  Liberals are<br />
      concerned primarily<br />
      with words and ideas, intangibles.<br />
      Why, because they are &#8220;social engineers&#8221;<br />
      who&#8217;s main goal is to manipulate society,<br />
      to control what it THINKS.<br />
      For instance: What was the mindset of<br />
      these people torturing this poor girl<br />
      in Charleston?  Did their thoughts<br />
      reflect on a societal belief which is<br />
      frowned upon by the Liberal<br />
      intelligencia?  Does it reflect on<br />
      society in general?  &#8220;Hatred&#8221; of<br />
      minorities, women?  Some victim group?</p>
<p>      Conservatives want law and order, people<br />
      to be safe and some kind of order in<br />
      society, the thinking and motivation of<br />
      lawbreakers is irrelevant.  That&#8217;s their<br />
      business but punishment for those<br />
      responsible for crimes against people<br />
      is critical is society is to maintain<br />
      law and order.  Hence, just<br />
      as Spencer said: SOME violence is WORSE<br />
      than other.  Why?  Because it attacks<br />
      sponsored societal beliefs imposed by<br />
      the Liberal elite. The individual<br />
      matters not, it&#8217;s the COLLECTIVE!</p>
<p>      That is warped thinking. That is<br />
      I&#8217;m going to use another bad word here)<br />
      SOCIALISM  You guys.</p>
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		<title>By: dennis hammond</title>
		<link>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/24/hate-crimes-demand-a-special-response/#comment-761</link>
		<author>dennis hammond</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/24/hate-crimes-demand-a-special-response/#comment-761</guid>
					<description>Just an idea Jim a BETTER title for
   your column:  Spencer Censors.
   Rolls off the tongue better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just an idea Jim a BETTER title for<br />
   your column:  Spencer Censors.<br />
   Rolls off the tongue better.</p>
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		<title>By: dennis hammond</title>
		<link>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/24/hate-crimes-demand-a-special-response/#comment-762</link>
		<author>dennis hammond</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/24/hate-crimes-demand-a-special-response/#comment-762</guid>
					<description>Here's a recent quote from a major
   closet Liberal and social engineer
   who (ha) thinks she's fit to be 
   president of the United States "It's time
   to put an end to "Society on your own".
   "It's time for shared responsibility for
    shared prosperity"  This from Socialist
   Hillary Clinton, one of the ELITE I spoke
   of.  These are rules which apply to YOU.

   Shared responsibility for shared prosperity.
   SOCIALISM.  Which eventually (after the
   First and Second Amendment are gone)
   becomes COMMUNISM.  The Clintons initial
   platform was "We're going to reinvent 
   government"  what they really meant was
   "We're going to reinvent COMMUNISM"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a recent quote from a major<br />
   closet Liberal and social engineer<br />
   who (ha) thinks she&#8217;s fit to be<br />
   president of the United States &#8220;It&#8217;s time<br />
   to put an end to &#8220;Society on your own&#8221;.<br />
   &#8220;It&#8217;s time for shared responsibility for<br />
    shared prosperity&#8221;  This from Socialist<br />
   Hillary Clinton, one of the ELITE I spoke<br />
   of.  These are rules which apply to YOU.</p>
<p>   Shared responsibility for shared prosperity.<br />
   SOCIALISM.  Which eventually (after the<br />
   First and Second Amendment are gone)<br />
   becomes COMMUNISM.  The Clintons initial<br />
   platform was &#8220;We&#8217;re going to reinvent<br />
   government&#8221;  what they really meant was<br />
   &#8220;We&#8217;re going to reinvent COMMUNISM&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Wildflower</title>
		<link>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/24/hate-crimes-demand-a-special-response/#comment-763</link>
		<author>Wildflower</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/24/hate-crimes-demand-a-special-response/#comment-763</guid>
					<description>Begging your pardon Dennis regarding this system of rampant crime you refer to:
What party has been in power for 7 years?
Certainly not the one I voted for.
What party has removed capable judges from office and put in their own? Not the one I voted for.
What party has fomented hatred and divisiveness and poverty across the country and let illegal drugs flow in like a sieve? Not the one I voted for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Begging your pardon Dennis regarding this system of rampant crime you refer to:<br />
What party has been in power for 7 years?<br />
Certainly not the one I voted for.<br />
What party has removed capable judges from office and put in their own? Not the one I voted for.<br />
What party has fomented hatred and divisiveness and poverty across the country and let illegal drugs flow in like a sieve? Not the one I voted for.</p>
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		<title>By: dennis hammond</title>
		<link>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/24/hate-crimes-demand-a-special-response/#comment-764</link>
		<author>dennis hammond</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/24/hate-crimes-demand-a-special-response/#comment-764</guid>
					<description>I don't know what party?  Remember 
    Wildflower most of what the current
    administration has been doing for
    the last 7 years is fix the damage
    of the prior 8 under Clinton.

    Remember that party that went on
    in Washington.  Taxes were raised,
    social engineering legislation passed,
    our military was dismantled and decimated,
    (the peace dividend) Terrorism went
    unmonitored and unchecked,
    A justice department was geared to 
    circumvent Congress (not that Congress
    is much better)  Everybody wants to
    go to the part but nobody wants to
    clean up.  Is that the Party you're
    referring to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know what party?  Remember<br />
    Wildflower most of what the current<br />
    administration has been doing for<br />
    the last 7 years is fix the damage<br />
    of the prior 8 under Clinton.</p>
<p>    Remember that party that went on<br />
    in Washington.  Taxes were raised,<br />
    social engineering legislation passed,<br />
    our military was dismantled and decimated,<br />
    (the peace dividend) Terrorism went<br />
    unmonitored and unchecked,<br />
    A justice department was geared to<br />
    circumvent Congress (not that Congress<br />
    is much better)  Everybody wants to<br />
    go to the part but nobody wants to<br />
    clean up.  Is that the Party you&#8217;re<br />
    referring to?</p>
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		<title>By: dennis hammond</title>
		<link>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/24/hate-crimes-demand-a-special-response/#comment-765</link>
		<author>dennis hammond</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/24/hate-crimes-demand-a-special-response/#comment-765</guid>
					<description>By the way Wildflower I think Clinton
    appointed more Federal judges than
    any president in history like 1600
    all activists and all appointed for
    life if I'm not mistaken. There 
    the one's making these half baked
    decisions and legislating from the
    bench. That's part of the social 
     engineering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way Wildflower I think Clinton<br />
    appointed more Federal judges than<br />
    any president in history like 1600<br />
    all activists and all appointed for<br />
    life if I&#8217;m not mistaken. There<br />
    the one&#8217;s making these half baked<br />
    decisions and legislating from the<br />
    bench. That&#8217;s part of the social<br />
     engineering.</p>
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		<title>By: Sasha</title>
		<link>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/24/hate-crimes-demand-a-special-response/#comment-783</link>
		<author>Sasha</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 03:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/24/hate-crimes-demand-a-special-response/#comment-783</guid>
					<description>You can delete all of Dennis Hammond's rantings as far as I'm concerned.  I no longer read them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can delete all of Dennis Hammond&#8217;s rantings as far as I&#8217;m concerned.  I no longer read them.</p>
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		<title>By: usersuz</title>
		<link>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/24/hate-crimes-demand-a-special-response/#comment-789</link>
		<author>usersuz</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 18:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/24/hate-crimes-demand-a-special-response/#comment-789</guid>
					<description>Let me raise the issue again: is rape a hate crime - against women? This is an important IDEA. Jim says, "A special crime occurs where prejudice empowers a person to think he or she can attack another because the victim is an inferior human being." Would Bruce DeBoskey sign on to the idea that rape is a hate crime against women? Would Veronica Garcia allow that it was more germane that the victim is a woman than what her color is? This is not sexual orientation, as her orientation was irrelevant to the perpetrators; it was her sex, period. Yes? No? Discuss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me raise the issue again: is rape a hate crime - against women? This is an important IDEA. Jim says, &#8220;A special crime occurs where prejudice empowers a person to think he or she can attack another because the victim is an inferior human being.&#8221; Would Bruce DeBoskey sign on to the idea that rape is a hate crime against women? Would Veronica Garcia allow that it was more germane that the victim is a woman than what her color is? This is not sexual orientation, as her orientation was irrelevant to the perpetrators; it was her sex, period. Yes? No? Discuss.</p>
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		<title>By: dennis hammond</title>
		<link>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/24/hate-crimes-demand-a-special-response/#comment-803</link>
		<author>dennis hammond</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 01:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/24/hate-crimes-demand-a-special-response/#comment-803</guid>
					<description>Sasha,

     Now THAT hurt!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sasha,</p>
<p>     Now THAT hurt!</p>
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