I am against the impeachment of either Bush or Cheney. Together, they are the best campaign fodder for the Democrats. Democrats need Bush and Cheney to stay in office, continuing to destroy what’s left of the country, dragging down the rest of the Republican party and paving the way for a sweep in 2008.

Durf786,

I was going to stay out of this, but with Clinton it wasn’t just Whitewater and the women. There was the Chinese fundraising scandal (amongst others) that never really found traction but was probably the most signifigant. Remember Al Gore picking up the brown bag full of cash from the Buddhist monks and then claiming (essentially admitting that there was wrong doing) “no conrolling legal authority”?

The Republicans do not hold the repugnancy factor alone if you really care to check into things which many don’t.

Impeaching Bush and Cheney (the real president) may not be the right thing to do politically, but it is the right thing to do. Mike Keefe’s cartoon in today’s Denver Post has it exactly right: most elected Democrats have been acting as doormats for the worst president in American history. The Democratic Party has deliberately taken meaningful democracy away from the American people, most of whom seem too dumb to know it.

The Bush administration can rightfully be blamed for the Iraq war and the vicious attack on our Constitution during its reign. The Democrats, however, have helped facilitate some of Bush’s worst policies. Hillary Clinton, the presumptive nominee for president, supported Bush’s war for oil by making the same arguments that Cheney made. Hillary is an intelligent person who knows more about what’s going on in Washington than most Americans do. Hillary obviously knew that she was telling the same lies that Bush and Cheney were telling in order to get a compliant Congress to rubber-stamp the Administration. No one who opposes the war in Iraq should be foolish enough to consider supporting Hillary Clinton for president, since she will undoubtedly continue Bush’s worst policies. She also supported the extremely unpatriotic USA PATRIOT Act, which is a much bigger attack on freedom than the 9-11 attacks were. No supporter of the anti-Constitutional “Patriot” Act should be considered the least bit patriotic by people with functioning brains.

Clinton, Edwards, and Obama have all promised to extend the Iraq War until at least 2013. I am sure it will last many years or decades beyond that. Most Americans supposedly no longer support this useless act of mass murder, and yet they support candidates who intend to continue this horrible act.

Bush and Cheney both deserve impeachment, but top Democrats love them both too much to get in their way.

The next election cannot possibly change anything, so quit pretending that it will.

I do not think Bill Clinton lying about sex on the side reaches the definition of “high crimes and misdemeanors.” In fact, in the privacy of their own thoughts, millions of American men regarded him with sympathy. Deliberately deceiving the American people to mount a calculated military invasion to take over a sovereign country for its resources, boy, if that doesn’t fit the bill, nothing does! Torture, corruption from the ground to the White House, illegal wiretapping, take your pick. I understand impeachment is not convenient, probably not practical. There are two glitches in that kind of thinking: 1) Not to impeach provides a precedent for other presidents to come and 2) George is still in office and wreaking havoc. All his foxes are firmly ensconced in their respective hen houses (FCC, EPA, FBI, etc.) and they know they only have one good shot left to get the things they want with taxpayer money before being drummed out of office in 2008. And as far as we can tell from down here, the Democrats can’t do a damn thing to stop them. The worst administration in the history of the United States and we are impotent to throw him out. That tells a sad story of its own.

Useruz,

Clinton lying about sex was the LEAST
reprehensible thing about his disasterous
roll as Commander in Chief. The guy
and his wife are crooks. A criminal
enterprise. Noidea mentioned the
Technology for Campaign contributions
with the Chinese. That right there is
treason punishable by hanging. Then
Commerce Sec. Ron Brown was going to
blow the wistle but his plane flew into
a mountain. Suprise suprise. That
administration STANK to high heaven.
And you Liberals always go make to
Monica and the blue dress, that was
nothing. The Clinton administration
years show two clear points about the
Left 1) Their hypocrisy in Cannonizing
a philander and accused RAPIST while
out of the other side of their mouths
bemoning the poor treatment of women.
2) That they will work with the DEVIL
himself forgiving all with no principal
if he ONLY supports and funds their
special interests and agendas.

It was truly a sick time.

Oh, and that “Clinton prosperity” everyone
on the Left constantly referrs to? It
resulted from Decimating our Military
(The peace dividend) and raising taxes.
The result of these policies let to 9/11
and the recession of March of 2000 just
as the scumbag was leaving Washington

Noidea, what exactly do you mean “The
same thing happended when Reagan was
President” Surely you don’t compare
Clintons abuse of office with the issue
of Iran-contra which was certainly a
circumvention of Congress to help a flegling
Democratic splinter group in Niccaragua.
That certainly helped Reagan politically,
fianancially, personally. Not hardly.
Everything Clinton did was for Clinton
including his most childish base needs.

Tell me that’s not what you are referring
to when you mention Reagan? There was a
scandel dejure with Clinton

Sorry, but one side is better than the other.
Because one side (The Republican side)
doesn’t make any promises to the American
people other than perhaps a little freedom.
That’s how government is supposed to work
as conceived by the founding fathers.

Do it yourself and we’ll get out of the way

Dennis/Wildflower,
I’m referring to the hatred of the opposition. The left despised Reagan and then the right despised Clinton…and now with Bush…the beat goes on. It is o.k. to attack a person’s positon, or if you feel as though they have committed wrong doing to lay out your thoughts. But so much of it is personal…and just mean spirited with no basis in fact. I think at times getting bombarded by all the crap that the “Hatfields and the McCoys” spew makes me want to have Calgon take me away….

Sorry to be so squishy.. I’ll try harder to minimize the people with whom I disagree arguments with more personal attacks against their character, people that they support and positions. This will keep America strong and vibrant.

Dennis Hammond is refreshing with his dogged consistency and support of right wing dogma. He’s wrong, but refreshing. It’s a marvelous ability to ignore and dismiss the worst aspects of the government of his choosing and to focus on the real or imagined paccadillos of those of a different political persuasion. Long may he have the right to do so, although there is the dichotomy that if he were in charge, probably no one else would have that right.

Dennis, it is good to have principles. You have the right to express them, and other people also have the right to their own principles. Principles can be a summation of our life experiences, so they will vary widely. We are not all right and we are not all wrong. I don’t subscribe across the board to either party.
But Dennis, life is not about my way or the highway.
You really don’t play well with others and if you were in school I’d send you to the principal’s office.

Wildflower,

We’re not in school, school’s out. This
is real life and unfortunately were up
against a large group of people, millions,
who
want to kill us, our children, destroy
our country and freedom around the globe
with an all encompassing, autocratic
totalitarian belief system. It’s as
serious
as cancer. The continuation of our
species hangs in the balance. I’m sure
those who opted NOT to stop Hitler in “37
and handed him the Czech republic (thought)
they were doing the right thing. As
history has showed us, the standing armies
of
France and Belgium COULD have stopped
Hitler’s army in it’s infancy,then.
Instead The appeasemnet route doomed
millions to die horribly and unnecessarily.
What did we learn? Sometimes people are
wrong in their thinking. DEAD WRONG!

LHKMAN,

By the way, did you read the Reuters piece
today which reports violence in Iraq is
down 70% The U.S. media won’t report it.
This mission is working. No body likes
the human cost but it is the front on
the war against terror. Suni’s and
Shia are starting to realize it’s fruitless
to fight each other and are starting to
join the coalition forces to rid al-Qaida.
You won’t here that in the press or on the
floor of the House or Senate.

LHKMAN,

Reuters is the London based media outlet
I said U.S. media, right? Was it Churchill
who said a man under 40 who isn’t a Liberal
has no heart, a man over 40 who isn’t
a Conservative has no brain? I assume
you’re over 40. You’re the snotty one.
I speak from the heart and mind, as
thoughtfully as possible. I can’t help
it if the Democrats present such an easy
target.

Hammond, you really are good at deflecting whatever anyone else says into something that you believe will make a point for you. As for the sight of people jumping from the World Trade Center, I don’t need your tears - I worked on the 27th floor of Tower 2, that’s the southernmost of the WTC towers. I have just as much, if not more, right to be upset at the terrorism. But, Hammond, somehow, I have a hard time comprehending how you can make these things into simplistic Republicans are good, Democrats are bad arguments. Think man, think. Do you really believe that one party has a monopoly on patriotism? If you so, you’re one sorry fool.

OK SPENCER WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT
LHKMAN???? I DEMAND THAT HE BE CENSURED
OR WATER BOARDED, ONE OR THE OTHER.
HE INSULTED MY HUMAN DIGNITY.

Oh, be quiet Wildflower you’re Spencer’s
pet

LHKMAN,

Don’t get your panties in a bind
we’re just debating here.

As for your rhetoric, ram away, show me
what you got. They’re only words. I’m just
searching for the truth, you’re afraid
of it. eh? When Liberals throw tantrums
they’re never specific about any facts or
opinions they disagree with.

On the Right
we call that having an honest debate.
Liberals can’t have an honest debate of
facts because they’re weak on the facts
and logic, it falls apart, so they have
to resort to tantrums or personal attacks.
Like I really give a shit. When did I
presume to tell you your “views”?

By the way, I have a sense
of humor apparently you don’t.

In debating circles there’s a saying: the
one who gets mad loses.

Maybe next time you can articulate a bit
more precisely what the hell you’re talking
about.