By Jim Spencer
SpencerSpeaks.com
October 9, 2007
“I don’t think we would react to the Abu Ghraib images now the way we did in 2004.”
Naomi Wolf issued the indictment after a speech that explained to members of The Denver Forum why the
Torture photos from an Iraqi prison that set off a national scandal three years ago would not bother us so much these days, Wolf insisted.
The 44-year-old author was in town to promote a new book, but also to issue the call for a grassroots groundswell of democracy to take back individual rights stripped away since the 9/11 terrorist attacks and the war in Iraq.
If there is a barometer of the country’s willingness to do that, it is Americans’ tolerance for torture. And there is not much good news on that front.
“This is where empathy is the great self-preserver,” said Wolf, whose new book “The End of America: Letter of Warning to a Young Patriot” has risen to 13th on the New York Times bestseller list. “Once the state starts to torture people, there’s a coarsening.”
Wolf’s book is a plea not to become desensitized. She examines what she calls the 10 steps that always occur where totalitarian governments replace democracies. She finds them all in
There is the exploitation of a terrifying threat to justify repression.
Think “al-Qaeda is coming; al-Qaeda is coming.”
There is the establishment of secret prisons that operate outside the law and the establishment of military tribunals.
There is the ability to unilaterally declare someone an enemy of the state and imprison them for years without charging them.
There is the development of a paramilitary force.
Blackwater anyone?
The totalitarian Top 10 list goes on to include surveillance of ordinary citizens, infiltrating citizen groups with government agents, arbitrarily detaining and releasing citizens, targeting key individuals, restricting the press, telling people that criticism equals espionage and dissent equals treason and finally, that all time favorite, subverting the rule of law.
Interestingly, torture is not on the list. But it is woven through the whole fabric of what Wolf calls “the closing down of democracy.”
The author, whose earlier bestselling books dealt primarily with women, said she felt compelled to write this one because of what she heard from a friend whose parents were Holocaust survivors and because of a young couple she knew from mentoring in a women’s leadership group.
Wolf looked at
“Am I saying that George W. Bush and his team are setting in place the bulwark of a violent police state?” Wolf said. “I don’t have a smoking gun. But I do have masses and masses of evidence.”
What she’d like to attract now are masses and masses of people to a group called the American Freedom Campaign or its conservative counterpart, the American Freedom Agenda.
Wolf’s audience at The Denver Forum was predominantly liberal. But she aims to team with such libertarians as Andrew Sullivan and ex-Congressman Bob Barr to re-establish legal principles breached by warrantless wiretaps, indefinite detentions without charges, abductions and torture.
This is not patriotism, said Wolf. It is abuse of power.
Still, politicians fear the label “soft on terror” so much that it took until last week to finally get all the would-be Democratic presidential candidates to sign the American Freedom Pledge:
“We are Americans, and in our America we do not torture, we do not imprison people without charge or legal remedy, we do not tap people’s phones and emails without a court order, and above all we do not give any President unchecked power.
“I pledge to fight to protect and defend the Constitution from assault by any President.”
Democratic frontrunners Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton were the last holdouts to endorse this statement of fundamental American principles, Wolf said.
Now, she and her group are on to would-be Republican presidential candidates, most of whom have endorsed “stress positions,” “water-boarding” and other buzzwords for torture.
This battle will not go to the meek, Wolf warned her
Democracy, she said, will return only “when millions of citizens rise up” above party lines and political labels.
It may take a village to raise a child. But it will take a nation to reclaim the Constitutional rights that separate American democracy from a budding dictatorship.
Copyright 2007 by Jim Spencer. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without permission.




34 users commented in " Author Warns of Move from Torture to Totalitarianism "
Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackI like Naomi Wolf, and I hope she sold a few books, but she’s way late. Bush will be gone in little over a year, and the prospect of being thrashed in 2008 has Congressional Republicans wondering if “goose step mode” is still the way to go. The U.S. populace has been excruciatingly slow to realize how greatly we’ve been damaged, but, finally, it is happening.
Let’s just hope the lesson learned is powerful enough to never let anything like the current administration’s travesties ever occur again.
Jim,
Actually it takes two parents to raise
a child. And this has to be the silliest
artical I’ve ever read. Comparing the U.S.
to Hitler’s German or Stalin’s Russia.
That is an ignorant, stupid statement
Stalin had MILLIONS
of people summarily executed as did Hitler,
as far as I know, no one has been executed,
except for over 3000 innocent civilians at
the trade centers on 9/11/01
The Freedom pledge signed by Democrats?
They don’t believe in freedom OR the
Constitution for that matter
Sadly, this seems all too true. It’d be fascinating, not to mention at least some minor validation of their viewpoint, if Libertarians were as outraged by the Bush administration’s neofascist actions as they seem to be by attempts to extend medical coverage to more children who currently don’t have it.
Jim!
The Bush Administration, I believe, is currently getting ready to steal (co-opt) the talking point that Rep. Charles Rangel (D-NY) proposed a year ago and make it their own–i.e., Get the Military Draft Board and the Draft back on line…and Draft a bunch more!
Rumors over here in Arvada and on Air American
radio suggest that the Bushies know that they are running out of military personnel while also at the same time are wanting to invade Iran on behalf of the neocons (A.I.PAC, et al).
They just might try to make this topic “their GOP talking point” for the upcoming 2008 Election.
I also heard another rumor…about Diane Carman. Someone said that she quit The Denver Post. Is that correct? If it is true, then it is sad day much like when you were let go! And Ms. Wolf may truly be on to something.
This is something most of us have known for a long time, that we are headed towards a facist state. Now we anticipate dennis’s claim that “a little torture never hurt anyone - it saves lives!” - “they hate us for our freedom!” It always easy to accept because there is only good and bad people in the world and the dennis hammond’s are the good, and will never risk torture because their chicken hawks and would never sign up to serve to defend this country from the Islamic hordes, because they’re cowards and would rather send someone else’s children to economic productive wars and to face tit-for-tat torture in the hands of the new and increasing enemy.
If there was anything to the drivel coming
from this silly Women’s rights activist,
she and her book wouldn’t be allowed to
exist. These kinds of attacks are childish
and irresponsible. They’re tantamount to
treason because they embolden the enemy.
Left wing “Americans” are spoiled and
childish and take much for granted. When
have Liberals ever cared about freedom
or the Constitution? Since the ninties
they’ve tried to eliminate the First,
Second and Fourth Amendments.
Here’s the other garbage written by
Naomi Wolf, just to put things in
perspective:
The End of America:Letter of Warning to
a young patriot
The Beauty Myth
The Shock Doctrine: The rise of Disaster
Capitalism
Misconceptions: Truth, Lies and the
unexpected on the journey to
motherhood,
Promiscuities: A secret history
of Female
What a bunch of feminist trash. It’s
obvious where her beliefs and ideologies
come from. That’s the beauty of
America (she fails to mention) any idiot
can write a book
It looks like we’ve fulfilled the 10 steps to a Totalitarian regime. But, as Durf said, it’s way late… Kerry said in ‘04, the country can’t afford 4 more years of the Bush administration.
And we couldn’t. Where do we really go from here now?
Daniel Perl
Nick Berg
Pfc. Thomas Tucker
Pfc. Kristian Manchaca
I appologize for those whose names
I forgotten. These people are the
victims of war crimes.
These people are DEAD the victims
of cowardly attrocities, as opposed
to the “victims” of College initiation
stunts,such as those which occured at
during the isolated incidences at
places like Abu Ghraib. The guilty
parties were punished under the Army
code of justice.
Where’s your outrage over the American
lives lost? Where’s their justice and
do you care?
Daniel Pearl
I am more than outraged, and sickened, at the lives which were lost as a result of our cowboy president’s
“Bring em on”……
Which were those Wildflower? Have you
forgotten were at war with most of Islam
and it has nothing to do with Bush?
I know you Lefties like to blame Bush
for everything including the mean temp-
erature of the Earth
The lives that were lost as a result of “bring em on” were the lives of our American troops in Iraq, Dennis.
Ben Franklin stated that he who “gives up his freedom for safety deserves neither”. I truly believe this. But George Bush did not alone pass the Patriot Act etc. This bill was renewed again this year by Republicans and Democrats. Naomi Wolf is irresponsible and so are you for giving her piece the light of day.
To use the “it takes a village to raise a child” crap at the end shows what your real motivation is.
Why don’t you write about something useful like how Hillary appeared to be climbing into bed with Chinese fundraisers again in a 1990’s rehash?
Or how Sandy Berger (KNOWN ADMITTED CRIMINAL AGAINST THE U.S. GOVERNMENT) is now being rewarded for his silence by a post in the Clinton team.
Or better yet, say that she also voted for the Patriot Act.
This Bush is Hitler stuff is old and tiresome. He will be gone soon.
In fact the renewel of the Patriot Act passed 89 to 10. Isn’t it time to put Bush away as your scapegoat for all that is wrong with this country? It is amazing. Torture is wrong. Bush has said that it is wrong, but it is a tough world out there and we are fighting against a pack of animals that are willing to kill innocent civilians in cities all over the world with barbaric methods. It is not a black and white issue as you would have us believe.
By the way Wildflower, you called Bush a
“Cowboy” not in a complementary way. I
thought you did not subscribe to name
calling? Cowboy is like Ilk right?
Gotcha!
The personal disparagement of the opposition is an earmark of intellectual bankruptcy. And the last time I checked, we had not declared war on Islam or any other religion for that matter. No one has really clarified that term “the enemy.” According to this Administration, the Enemy comprises a long list of everyone from Al-Qaeda to the Democratic Party (Lefties?). Are the Iraqis who want us out of their country also the Enemy? Would you take up arms against a military force that invaded YOUR country? We are the same underneath it all: we defend what we love, we are angry with trespassers, we cherish our families. I am not surprised at what has happened in Iraq, because it is so predictable that it’s almost boring. What’s amazing is that anyone could defend our presence there at this late date.
Evidence of the truth of the statement:
“I don’t think we would react to the Abu Ghraib images now the way we did in 2004.”
Can be found in the fact that torture imagery is now being used to sell… women’s shampoo on television, during episodes of the Gilmore Girls.
More posts on this can be found here, here,, and here.
These times are not only interesting, as the saying goes, but utterly surreal.
~nwa
Usersuz
Usersuz,
“The personal disparagement of the opposition is an earmark of intellectual bankruptcy”? I just finished reading a column closely identifying George Bush with one of the most evil men in history in Adolph Hitler. I read remarks calling Republicans “goose steppers”, come on you don’t really have the gaul to call Dennis out (maybe you were calling me out on my comments) when these remarks are being said at the same time do you?
This is all about the march to 2008 (as evidenced by the “it takes a village…” tag at the end) and the rhetoric is getting ridiculous.
You’re right, Dennis, I was wrong to say cowboy because that’s an insult to every hard-working true cowboy. I spent a lot of time as a kid in the summers on my grandparents’ ranch/farm, cowboys are hard-working, honest, decent people.
There’s a time and a place to be a cowboy. The oval office was not the place, when our soldiers were endangered in Iraq was not the time.
NO. sorry, were not the same. Is there
a mother in America who would instill in
their child a desire to kill Jews and to
perhaps one day be a martyr? We are
experiencing a clash of cultures with one
which is alien and caustic, which worships
exalts death.
It is anti semitic, anti freedom, anti
Liberty and ultra racist. It is everything
we abhor in this country. You sooner you
realize this the sooner we can try to save
humanity from theses idiots.
Nwc W. Alberts gave us some links to “phishing” websites. I clicked and my anti-virus software went nuts…Just an fyi..
Noieda, You don’t know how often I’ve
heard that quote from Franklin since we’ve
tightened security (and rightly so) since
9/11. It’s getting old. You have no idea
just how secure we are in this country
compared to Middle east, India or Africa.
You can walk down just about any city street
at 3:oo in the morning and be relatively
certain to survive. Perhaps not in NYC,
Detroit or South Central LA but just about
the rest of the country.
Try that in Sao Paulo Brazil or Columbia
or Afganistan or Irag or Syria.
We so take for granted that “Little security”
Franklin referred to.
Put you in THOSE countries and they’d have
you screaming for your momma all the way
to the steps of the Capital in Washington
and it would be all George Bush’s fault.
Your funny. Like most Americans you live in
a dream world.
You’re right noidea– it is a tough world
out there, tougher than we in this country
can imagine and it’s not black and white
as people sitting in this island of
prosperity might have us believe
Hey Dennis..Let’s have the government monitor everything that we do for security reasons. Joking of course. You are an extremist. You are diffentiating a police force (which we currently have) that is for protection of citizens and high tech tracking of data and illegal searches on you and every person in this country. It is a very slippery slope.
Stop and think about the words that you choose to use for one minute. Are you really like this or is it an act?
Dennis,
In addition, they have excellent “security” in Myanmar (Burma) and Venezuala…but do we really want that? I for one don’t. This doesn’t mean that I still don’t disagree with Jim’s perspective on Bush and Republicans and the fact that Democrats aren’t culpable for any of the laws or actions taken post 911, or for that matter any number of issues that strikes their fancy. The opinions of which just start there (911 reaction) and swirl out of control into a feeding frenzy of idiocy on a vast array of issues.
What we appear to have here is two radical sides that are not very dis-similar to the Hatfields and McCoys. We have people commenting on this site that are from both sides…The discourse is not rational and is nearly all based on emotion and half truths.
I run into many people who have nothing
but criticism for the U.S., but obviously
enjoy all of its fruits and benes. When I
query them about their complaints, they
have nothing specific in mind and are
simply parenting the montra of the Left-
wing crybabies. Basically it’s George
Bush’s fault. Everything.
For every one thing the Blame America
first crowd comes up with that goes wrong
in this country,I come up with a hundred
things that work and go right.
The U.S. is an amazing acheivment. Try
India where trains don’t run and toilets
don’t flush.
Or those advanced cultures in Europe for
God sake, what a mess. Rioting and old
world corruption.
You throw the word illegal around fairly
easily. I think we’re a far cry from the
totalitarian, autocratic governments
suggested by lunatics and crackpots.
I don’t have any concern about being
monitored. If it helps save a few
thousand lives during this war against
terror were in, great.
As for the slipery slope- that’s why we
have the First AND Second Amendment
compliments of the founding fathers
noidea, I do have this concern however
Question: To what degree is the U.S.
a pawn for corporate interests?
Maybe you can answer that for me.
This answer to this varies widely
depending upon who one talks to
The U.S. most certainly is a pawn for corporate interests, Dennis. Corporations give large dollars to both parties. Including George Soros who has interests all over the world and is a major benefactor (Daddy Warbucks) for the Democratic party.
Noidea, are you familiar with a guy
by the name of Lyndon LaRouche? I was
accosted by some people at the post office
who are on his “team” and they were handing
out information. I picked up LaRouche’s
book called Earth’s Next Fifty Years. I’ve
read 100 of 300 pages and found it to be
almost completely inscrutible. He is a
conspiracy theorist and he claims an
economist. I’m reading the book for
balance. This guy is on the far left
on the continuem and claims Dick Cheney
is involved in a world wide military
industrial conspiracy with the British
in a corporation called BAE
Anything?
Noidea, from Wikipedia:
BAE now sells more to the US Department of Defense (DOD) than the UK MOD.[75] The company has been allowed to buy important defence contractors in the US, however its status as a UK company requires that its US subsidiaries are governed by American executives under Special Security Arrangements. BAE Systems faces less impediments in this sense than its European counterparts, as there is a high degree of integration between the US and UK defence establishments. BAE’s purchase of Lockheed Martin Aerospace Electronic Systems in November 2000 was described by John Hamre, CEO of the Center for Strategic and International Studies and former Deputy Secretary of Defense, as “precedent setting” given the advanced and classified nature of many of that company’s products.[76]
The possibility of a merger between BAE and major North American defence contractors has long been reported; including Boeing, General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin and Raytheon.[44][77][78]
There is no doubt that Dick Cheney is a very complex man. But, believe it or not, I am part of the 19% that believes that he has the best interests of the U.S. at heart and is a good man. He is very easy to criticize, but if you follow his rise in politics at one point he was one of the most respected members of Congress. I believe that he was the correct Vice President at a time when the country needed a man like him. I am sure that I will be lambasted for my statements. I can only hope that my previous comments will provide some dimension as to where I really stand.
Noidea,
Interesting, by the way, back to topic,
two obvious reasons Naomi Wolf is flat
wrong about our shift to “Totalitarianism”-
1) She’s writing a book about it and
2) She’s still breathing
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