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	<title>Comments on: Denver Tries to Close Schools, Save Children</title>
	<link>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/02/denver-tries-to-close-schools-save-children/</link>
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		<title>By: davebarnes</title>
		<link>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/02/denver-tries-to-close-schools-save-children/#comment-476</link>
		<author>davebarnes</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 16:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/02/denver-tries-to-close-schools-save-children/#comment-476</guid>
					<description>Grammar Nazi Alert

It is spelled PeÃ±a and not Pena.
The same as Mayor PeÃ±a.
The same as PeÃ±a Blvd.

Why is so difficult for people to spell correctly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grammar Nazi Alert</p>
<p>It is spelled PeÃ±a and not Pena.<br />
The same as Mayor PeÃ±a.<br />
The same as PeÃ±a Blvd.</p>
<p>Why is so difficult for people to spell correctly?</p>
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		<title>By: Adam 2</title>
		<link>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/02/denver-tries-to-close-schools-save-children/#comment-478</link>
		<author>Adam 2</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 18:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/02/denver-tries-to-close-schools-save-children/#comment-478</guid>
					<description>The woman you write about is Rita Montero.  Current candidate for DPS school board...and perhaps equally important, she served on the Denver School Board and knows what she is talking about...and truly understands the politics of the board and superintendent.  We should heed her comments with the knowledge that she knows the inner workings of the school board...goals achieved....goals failed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The woman you write about is Rita Montero.  Current candidate for DPS school board&#8230;and perhaps equally important, she served on the Denver School Board and knows what she is talking about&#8230;and truly understands the politics of the board and superintendent.  We should heed her comments with the knowledge that she knows the inner workings of the school board&#8230;goals achieved&#8230;.goals failed.</p>
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		<title>By: The Truthteller</title>
		<link>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/02/denver-tries-to-close-schools-save-children/#comment-480</link>
		<author>The Truthteller</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 19:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/02/denver-tries-to-close-schools-save-children/#comment-480</guid>
					<description>The upset woman to whom you refer was Rita Montero, a former school board member, current school board candidate, and full-time wacko. In one of the papers, Wellington Webb referred to her outburst as a "political stunt." You need to do a bit more homework before putting your column out there for people to read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The upset woman to whom you refer was Rita Montero, a former school board member, current school board candidate, and full-time wacko. In one of the papers, Wellington Webb referred to her outburst as a &#8220;political stunt.&#8221; You need to do a bit more homework before putting your column out there for people to read.</p>
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		<title>By: dennis hammond</title>
		<link>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/02/denver-tries-to-close-schools-save-children/#comment-481</link>
		<author>dennis hammond</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 19:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/02/denver-tries-to-close-schools-save-children/#comment-481</guid>
					<description>Who cares'&#62;&#38;*-?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who cares&#8217;&gt;&amp;*-?</p>
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		<title>By: dennis hammond</title>
		<link>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/02/denver-tries-to-close-schools-save-children/#comment-482</link>
		<author>dennis hammond</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/02/denver-tries-to-close-schools-save-children/#comment-482</guid>
					<description>As for the issue of the closed schools with
   failing illiterate students, sounds like
   people are angry because their local "Day
   Care" for preteens went out of business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for the issue of the closed schools with<br />
   failing illiterate students, sounds like<br />
   people are angry because their local &#8220;Day<br />
   Care&#8221; for preteens went out of business.</p>
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		<title>By: usersuz</title>
		<link>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/02/denver-tries-to-close-schools-save-children/#comment-483</link>
		<author>usersuz</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 22:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/02/denver-tries-to-close-schools-save-children/#comment-483</guid>
					<description>Not all word processing programs used within a browser will let you insert a letter with a tilde over it. I can do it in Wordperfect, but not in Firefox.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not all word processing programs used within a browser will let you insert a letter with a tilde over it. I can do it in Wordperfect, but not in Firefox.</p>
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		<title>By: Wildflower</title>
		<link>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/02/denver-tries-to-close-schools-save-children/#comment-487</link>
		<author>Wildflower</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 23:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/02/denver-tries-to-close-schools-save-children/#comment-487</guid>
					<description>Same kids, same parents, same socio-economic background, same teachers, same DPS tenure system...just different schools.
Will this change scores?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same kids, same parents, same socio-economic background, same teachers, same DPS tenure system&#8230;just different schools.<br />
Will this change scores?</p>
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		<title>By: dennis hammond</title>
		<link>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/02/denver-tries-to-close-schools-save-children/#comment-489</link>
		<author>dennis hammond</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 02:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/02/denver-tries-to-close-schools-save-children/#comment-489</guid>
					<description>I have a question, why is a tilde required
    in ENGLISH grammer or writing?  I'm sure
    many words are derived from various
    foreign languages
    and have accents which would be appropriate
    in THOSE languages.

    This is just another example of the 
    pervasivness of foreign languages on
    the English lexicon which are not
    necessarily appropriate and are 
    contrary to the concept of assimilation

    Public eduation struggles with the same
    baloney for instance BI LINGUAL ed.

    you have classrooms filled with students
    who speak and write (but not very well)
    foreign languages.  It's almost ironic
    that the Grammer nazi brought it up.

    It's appropoe to failing public education
    and failing students and closed public
    schools</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a question, why is a tilde required<br />
    in ENGLISH grammer or writing?  I&#8217;m sure<br />
    many words are derived from various<br />
    foreign languages<br />
    and have accents which would be appropriate<br />
    in THOSE languages.</p>
<p>    This is just another example of the<br />
    pervasivness of foreign languages on<br />
    the English lexicon which are not<br />
    necessarily appropriate and are<br />
    contrary to the concept of assimilation</p>
<p>    Public eduation struggles with the same<br />
    baloney for instance BI LINGUAL ed.</p>
<p>    you have classrooms filled with students<br />
    who speak and write (but not very well)<br />
    foreign languages.  It&#8217;s almost ironic<br />
    that the Grammer nazi brought it up.</p>
<p>    It&#8217;s appropoe to failing public education<br />
    and failing students and closed public<br />
    schools</p>
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		<title>By: noidea</title>
		<link>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/02/denver-tries-to-close-schools-save-children/#comment-490</link>
		<author>noidea</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 03:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/02/denver-tries-to-close-schools-save-children/#comment-490</guid>
					<description>Dennis Hammond,

It is hard in this world today, with all of the crap that is said by ALL sides, to not become hardened and bitter.   I encourage you to try to see the goodness that is out there in life.  I am trying to do the same.  We only have one shot at this world and it is better to become part of the solution, no matter how small that your role may be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis Hammond,</p>
<p>It is hard in this world today, with all of the crap that is said by ALL sides, to not become hardened and bitter.   I encourage you to try to see the goodness that is out there in life.  I am trying to do the same.  We only have one shot at this world and it is better to become part of the solution, no matter how small that your role may be.</p>
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		<title>By: davebarnes</title>
		<link>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/02/denver-tries-to-close-schools-save-children/#comment-491</link>
		<author>davebarnes</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 03:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/02/denver-tries-to-close-schools-save-children/#comment-491</guid>
					<description>re: usersuz wrote "Not all word processing programs used within a browser will let you insert a letter with a tilde over it. I can do it in Wordperfect, but not in Firefox."

That is nonsense.
You don't use a "word processing program within a browser". That is just technical nonsense speak.

It is just laziness upon the part of writers (typists) that causes names such as PeÃ±a to be misspelled. Sheesh. Next you will tell me you can't spell FranÃ§ois Mitterand or Gerhard ShrÃ¶der or JosÃ© MartÃ­.

,dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: usersuz wrote &#8220;Not all word processing programs used within a browser will let you insert a letter with a tilde over it. I can do it in Wordperfect, but not in Firefox.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is nonsense.<br />
You don&#8217;t use a &#8220;word processing program within a browser&#8221;. That is just technical nonsense speak.</p>
<p>It is just laziness upon the part of writers (typists) that causes names such as PeÃ±a to be misspelled. Sheesh. Next you will tell me you can&#8217;t spell FranÃ§ois Mitterand or Gerhard ShrÃ¶der or JosÃ© MartÃ­.</p>
<p>,dave</p>
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		<title>By: dennis hammond</title>
		<link>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/02/denver-tries-to-close-schools-save-children/#comment-496</link>
		<author>dennis hammond</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/02/denver-tries-to-close-schools-save-children/#comment-496</guid>
					<description>Noidea, what fun is that?  Besides, somebody
   has to address the truth.  Our elected
   officials and office holders certainly 
   don't, they hide from it.  An open, public
   discourse by those who have absolutely 
   no power or authority is always helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noidea, what fun is that?  Besides, somebody<br />
   has to address the truth.  Our elected<br />
   officials and office holders certainly<br />
   don&#8217;t, they hide from it.  An open, public<br />
   discourse by those who have absolutely<br />
   no power or authority is always helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: Wildflower</title>
		<link>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/02/denver-tries-to-close-schools-save-children/#comment-497</link>
		<author>Wildflower</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/02/denver-tries-to-close-schools-save-children/#comment-497</guid>
					<description>Maybe your computer was made in Mexico Dave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe your computer was made in Mexico Dave.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/02/denver-tries-to-close-schools-save-children/#comment-501</link>
		<author>Keith</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 01:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/02/denver-tries-to-close-schools-save-children/#comment-501</guid>
					<description>Dennis, always the pro-education guy! "Who caresâ€™&#62;&#38;*-?" "Public eduation struggles with the same baloney for instance BI LINGUAL ed."

Jim, I really disappointed in you; it seems you need an education in public education.  You seem to be an apologist for Bennet and the school board who feel the way to "fix" schools is to close them.  Why is it the school that's broken?  Is the school tested?  The teachers?  No, it's the students?  So why did the students fail or for that matter improve on their standardized CSAP/LNCB testing made up by right wing education wannabes?  The real reason can't be addressed because it's politically incorrect.  That's what this woman was trying to suggest.  You can't make it about people of race and color, because that would be "racist" and biggoted.  But where is the problem?

Ask any teacher off the record where the problem lies.  They will tell over and over it lies with the parents and their environment.  Call it racial, call it cultural, but it's not that simple.  It's parents who wont invest in their kids future or support the teachers and school system.  How come the inner city schools fail, but the urban schools get by?  

So how do you fix the problem.  You hire a businessman to run an education system.  It's not about money; if it was, hire a contractor to fix the problem.  The problem is learning, for that you need EDUCATION PROFESSIONALS, not businessman.  Just like the Dennis and the right wing believe "anyone can teach" even they're smart enough to know the DPS efficacy motto that "every child can learn" isn't exactly true.  You don't fix the problem of learning improvement by closing schools and reopening, and showing how much money you saved.  This is how businessmen think, the bottom line, never the human element.  I'm wait for some failing corporation to hire a professional educator to fix their problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis, always the pro-education guy! &#8220;Who caresâ€™&gt;&amp;*-?&#8221; &#8220;Public eduation struggles with the same baloney for instance BI LINGUAL ed.&#8221;</p>
<p>Jim, I really disappointed in you; it seems you need an education in public education.  You seem to be an apologist for Bennet and the school board who feel the way to &#8220;fix&#8221; schools is to close them.  Why is it the school that&#8217;s broken?  Is the school tested?  The teachers?  No, it&#8217;s the students?  So why did the students fail or for that matter improve on their standardized CSAP/LNCB testing made up by right wing education wannabes?  The real reason can&#8217;t be addressed because it&#8217;s politically incorrect.  That&#8217;s what this woman was trying to suggest.  You can&#8217;t make it about people of race and color, because that would be &#8220;racist&#8221; and biggoted.  But where is the problem?</p>
<p>Ask any teacher off the record where the problem lies.  They will tell over and over it lies with the parents and their environment.  Call it racial, call it cultural, but it&#8217;s not that simple.  It&#8217;s parents who wont invest in their kids future or support the teachers and school system.  How come the inner city schools fail, but the urban schools get by?  </p>
<p>So how do you fix the problem.  You hire a businessman to run an education system.  It&#8217;s not about money; if it was, hire a contractor to fix the problem.  The problem is learning, for that you need EDUCATION PROFESSIONALS, not businessman.  Just like the Dennis and the right wing believe &#8220;anyone can teach&#8221; even they&#8217;re smart enough to know the DPS efficacy motto that &#8220;every child can learn&#8221; isn&#8217;t exactly true.  You don&#8217;t fix the problem of learning improvement by closing schools and reopening, and showing how much money you saved.  This is how businessmen think, the bottom line, never the human element.  I&#8217;m wait for some failing corporation to hire a professional educator to fix their problem.</p>
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		<title>By: The Truthteller</title>
		<link>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/02/denver-tries-to-close-schools-save-children/#comment-560</link>
		<author>The Truthteller</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/02/denver-tries-to-close-schools-save-children/#comment-560</guid>
					<description>Dennis,

Before going off on another inane rant about language, learn how to spell the word grammar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis,</p>
<p>Before going off on another inane rant about language, learn how to spell the word grammar.</p>
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		<title>By: davebarnes</title>
		<link>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/02/denver-tries-to-close-schools-save-children/#comment-566</link>
		<author>davebarnes</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 04:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/10/02/denver-tries-to-close-schools-save-children/#comment-566</guid>
					<description>1. My computer was made in China like everyone else's. My computer was not "Hecho en MÃ©xico".

2. English is very strong at absorbing words from other languages. For example, faÃ§ade and fiancÃ©e. Both of these have accent marks and both are spelled as shown by the American Heritage Dictionary. English does not require that we drop the accent mark when English absorbs the word. FYI, the New Yorker magazine (full of literate English-writing Americans) spells it coÃ¶peration. Although, they are last holdout on this.

3. The tilde is required in Federico's last name because that is how HE spells it. WE don't get to decide how to spell HIS name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. My computer was made in China like everyone else&#8217;s. My computer was not &#8220;Hecho en MÃ©xico&#8221;.</p>
<p>2. English is very strong at absorbing words from other languages. For example, faÃ§ade and fiancÃ©e. Both of these have accent marks and both are spelled as shown by the American Heritage Dictionary. English does not require that we drop the accent mark when English absorbs the word. FYI, the New Yorker magazine (full of literate English-writing Americans) spells it coÃ¶peration. Although, they are last holdout on this.</p>
<p>3. The tilde is required in Federico&#8217;s last name because that is how HE spells it. WE don&#8217;t get to decide how to spell HIS name.</p>
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