The so-called Iraq War debate has devolved into blah, blah, blah - a lot of meaningless posturing by the usual suspects. For those on the right, kindly define what “victory” is. Until then, you may spend all the advertising dollars you wish to parrot the White House line, but it’s meaningless. Only when the terms of art are defined is it even possible to evaluate the statements. For those on the left of this debate, either vote or sit down and shut up. The constant posturing to no effect is annoying. And while troops are in harm’s way and dying or being maimed, “annoying” becomes “very annoying.”

This is another reason the 2008 election keeps being a lock for the Dems, is because the Repubs still “don’t get it.” 2006 wasn’t a lesson for them. Look at the Repub presidential candicateds, sans Paul. They keep echoing the Bush pro-war agenda, but try to separate themselves by saying they would of done it differently, e.g., more troops! That’s why Ron Paul won the FOX NEWS! poll on who was better in the last debate. Even the Fox News viewers know the war is a lost cause, but Hannity and the Repubs don’t get a clue.

As for the war in Iraq: Victory=no attacks
at home by terrorists. Clearly we are
engaging those groups and occupying their
time, interests and resources in THEIR
homeland, not ours. Sorry kids but in case
you didn’t know it we are engaged in a global
war against terrorism. No attacks here since
9/11 clearly demonstates Bush’s policy is
right.

Dennis Hammond

Before the war, U.N. inspectors were searching Iraq for weapons of mass destruction. The inspectors never found them, so we attacked Iraq. The weapons were never found. The reasons for invading Iraq were shifting between “weapons of mass destruction,” “regime change,” and the belief, encouraged by Dick Cheney and his helpers, that Saddam Hussein had something to do with the 9-11 attacks. People supported this war based on fear and lies which they either told or believed. The idea that the surge is working and that we can win if we stay a little longer is no more true than the lies which started this war.

How will we know if we have won? We have gone from overthrowing Saddam Hussein’s regime to fighting against Shiite militias and against militant Sunnis and against Al Qaeda, whose presence in Iraq increased after we destroyed Iraq’s government. We have helped Al Qaeda once again, as we did when we gave them arms to defeat the Soviets in Afghanistan.

This is not World War II, where we had a defined enemy. In this war we have many enemies and we are creating more as we continue our occupation. The 2008 election is not likely to help get us out of this mess, because both parties are responsible and neither one has the guts (or the decency) to pull out our troops. The effects of this war will be with us for many decades, if not centuries, to come.

Perhaps quickly withdrawing large numbers of troops from Iraq would be a mistake, but we must move them to the sidelines and let the Iraqis sort things out on their own. Unfortunately, I don’t think the Democrats have the cohones to make that happen.

Yeah, when are the Dems going to do just that and stop encouraging our enemies to kill our boys then profess all this anguish over their deaths?

Try reading General Giaps memoirs prior to posting a reply all of you irate kool aid drinkers out there get all of your panties in a bunch…

For those in the dark about Vietnam this is a North Vietnamese general’s views on how the American (called that loosely)media and the left encouraged his army enough to hang in there until our illustrious “re-deployment” Congress withdrew funds.

I was there for 3 tours. I’d like to speak to that Vietnam veteran.. was he the same type of veteran as John Kerry or Churchill? grin.. just asking…..bwahahahaahahahahahahaha….

Now where is all that oil we were suppose to get. .and where is all that progess we made under Clinton in the Middle East and we were so “liked” by the world. We’ve been appeasing for 60 years with the Middle East over Iserael. We built the very infrastructure and pumping facilities they now use to poor billions of oil dollars into terrorism. What’cha think is going to happen Sparky, when we withdraw from Iraq? The same as Vietnam and worse?

Yeah, I do wish the Democrats were behind the chance for freedom for more people of this world instead of finding every excuse in the book to be against it…Bush bad…bad..bad…

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Jim, what if things actually improve in Iraq?..will you or these chumps.be disappointed?.. Seriously, think about it…I believe that you would be. Not saying that things are good over there, but I have buddies that are there and tell me that they believe in their mission and they tell me that things are improving… But you want things to get worse and would NEVER report that.