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	<title>Comments on: New Regulations, Same Old Prejudice</title>
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		<title>By: Stuart R Brann</title>
		<link>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/08/08/new-regulations-same-old-prejudice/#comment-159</link>
		<author>Stuart R Brann</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 00:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>So far, our elected people in Washington have proved to one and all that as a group they operate in a "cojones-free" state.</description>
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		<title>By: Adam 2</title>
		<link>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/08/08/new-regulations-same-old-prejudice/#comment-160</link>
		<author>Adam 2</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 03:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/08/08/new-regulations-same-old-prejudice/#comment-160</guid>
					<description>If we are going to have new rules submitted by Homeland Security, I'd like to see them implement them in the Colorado ski industry this fall.
Let the new rules affected Colorado's overall economy and disrupt the winter tourist trade, and I am sure the Governor will ring up the Congressional team in Washington, wake them up  and yell "Help."
Truly dirupting the ski industry will be a sight to see.  For those who hate the "illegals" in our state, happy skiing this winter.
Jose and Martha won't be there to pamper you and as a result the tourists will stay away...forever.  
That alone is worth the price of the ticket to watch as we preserve our western heritage and land for own for years to come.
No Jose and Martha...no more tourists!
Green forever....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we are going to have new rules submitted by Homeland Security, I&#8217;d like to see them implement them in the Colorado ski industry this fall.<br />
Let the new rules affected Colorado&#8217;s overall economy and disrupt the winter tourist trade, and I am sure the Governor will ring up the Congressional team in Washington, wake them up  and yell &#8220;Help.&#8221;<br />
Truly dirupting the ski industry will be a sight to see.  For those who hate the &#8220;illegals&#8221; in our state, happy skiing this winter.<br />
Jose and Martha won&#8217;t be there to pamper you and as a result the tourists will stay away&#8230;forever.<br />
That alone is worth the price of the ticket to watch as we preserve our western heritage and land for own for years to come.<br />
No Jose and Martha&#8230;no more tourists!<br />
Green forever&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: noidea</title>
		<link>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/08/08/new-regulations-same-old-prejudice/#comment-161</link>
		<author>noidea</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 04:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/08/08/new-regulations-same-old-prejudice/#comment-161</guid>
					<description>It's hard to determine the point of this column.  Laws that are currently in place to penalize business for hiring illegal immigrants are finally now being held accountable.  It is very very easy to validate a social security number at the SSA office by showing up and asking them to do so.   A person that has been issued a legal social security number that does not match is able to prove rather quickly the validity.   Rather than increase fraud, the enforcement will actually reduce it by forcing the same documentation that all of the rest of us must provide as well when applying for a job.  A couple of declines on the job hunt will discourage the hunter.  Quite frankly, although harsh, it is not our problem (although it has become so) that a person skirted the traditional immigration methods in order to better their own existance.   It is sad that so many families will be affected, but once the laws that are currently on our books are enforced perhaps we can get a handle on the scope of the problem and possibly create an amnesty situation for the people that are currently here.   People will fall through the cracks, but until enforcement happens the southern border is going to continue to be an open gate of illegal immigration.  I am not anti immigrant, nor anti hispanic.  I love their culture and ethics.  But a line must be drawn in the sand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s hard to determine the point of this column.  Laws that are currently in place to penalize business for hiring illegal immigrants are finally now being held accountable.  It is very very easy to validate a social security number at the SSA office by showing up and asking them to do so.   A person that has been issued a legal social security number that does not match is able to prove rather quickly the validity.   Rather than increase fraud, the enforcement will actually reduce it by forcing the same documentation that all of the rest of us must provide as well when applying for a job.  A couple of declines on the job hunt will discourage the hunter.  Quite frankly, although harsh, it is not our problem (although it has become so) that a person skirted the traditional immigration methods in order to better their own existance.   It is sad that so many families will be affected, but once the laws that are currently on our books are enforced perhaps we can get a handle on the scope of the problem and possibly create an amnesty situation for the people that are currently here.   People will fall through the cracks, but until enforcement happens the southern border is going to continue to be an open gate of illegal immigration.  I am not anti immigrant, nor anti hispanic.  I love their culture and ethics.  But a line must be drawn in the sand.</p>
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		<title>By: Wildflower</title>
		<link>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/08/08/new-regulations-same-old-prejudice/#comment-164</link>
		<author>Wildflower</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/08/08/new-regulations-same-old-prejudice/#comment-164</guid>
					<description>When the social security number does not match up with the data base, what happens to the tax money paid from the bogus number? Does it go into the soc. sec. fun, general fund, the Iraq War, someone's pocket? Could it be used for immigrant health care?
The prejudice was fomented by the Bush administration after 9/11 by not securing the borders and enforcing immigration laws.  When people see hundreds of thousands of immigrants crossing illegally they know they are not safe from future terrorism. They want English, the common denominator, to be the official language as it always was, but now we have a dual language country.  They can't afford health care and their jobs are threatened by cheap labor.  Karl Rove's master plan for elimination of the middle class is ever closer. Untied we stand, divided we fall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the social security number does not match up with the data base, what happens to the tax money paid from the bogus number? Does it go into the soc. sec. fun, general fund, the Iraq War, someone&#8217;s pocket? Could it be used for immigrant health care?<br />
The prejudice was fomented by the Bush administration after 9/11 by not securing the borders and enforcing immigration laws.  When people see hundreds of thousands of immigrants crossing illegally they know they are not safe from future terrorism. They want English, the common denominator, to be the official language as it always was, but now we have a dual language country.  They can&#8217;t afford health care and their jobs are threatened by cheap labor.  Karl Rove&#8217;s master plan for elimination of the middle class is ever closer. Untied we stand, divided we fall.</p>
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		<title>By: noidea</title>
		<link>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/08/08/new-regulations-same-old-prejudice/#comment-165</link>
		<author>noidea</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 15:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/08/08/new-regulations-same-old-prejudice/#comment-165</guid>
					<description>Adam2, these aren't new rules.   If the ski industry is hiring illegal immigrants, then they will pay severely.  This will help raise the wages for labor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam2, these aren&#8217;t new rules.   If the ski industry is hiring illegal immigrants, then they will pay severely.  This will help raise the wages for labor.</p>
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		<title>By: urthpigg</title>
		<link>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/08/08/new-regulations-same-old-prejudice/#comment-171</link>
		<author>urthpigg</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 20:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/08/08/new-regulations-same-old-prejudice/#comment-171</guid>
					<description>Many businesses in this country have come to rely on illegal immigrant labor and illegal immigrants rely on the businesses that hire them.  That doesn't make it right.  A person can be against illegal immigration without being a racist and without hating illegal or legal immigrants.  Calling someone a racist for being against illegal immigration is the way some liberals help support the policies of anti-working class conservatives.

If businesses need illegal immigrants to work for them, why not make it easier for people to immigrate legally?  Why should businesses get whatever they want at the expense of everyone else?  I suspect that the reason things are the way they are now is because illegal immigrants are easier for employers to exploit.  That means that they are not paid minimum wage and employers do not have to obey any of the few laws in this country that protect workers.  I almost never see this fact discussed by anyone who is supposedly liberal or conservative.  Most of what I have read or heard on this subject has been dishonest for leaving out the obvious facts about this situation.

It may be true that if workers are paid a living wage in this country that prices will go up.  Prices are already going up for other reasons, especially the cherished American value known as greed.  Since the Democratic Party has adopted a platform which favors corporations over workers and consumers, there is no party to represent the less privileged people in the United States.  Mexico and other countries should be responsible for the welfare of their own citizens.  We should not subsidize their irresponsibility.

Conservatives often say they favor a free market without government interference.  When our tax money is used for pork barrel projects and for other subsidies to corporations, such as the proposed guest worker program or tax cuts, only people who are naive or dishonest could ever call that a "free" market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many businesses in this country have come to rely on illegal immigrant labor and illegal immigrants rely on the businesses that hire them.  That doesn&#8217;t make it right.  A person can be against illegal immigration without being a racist and without hating illegal or legal immigrants.  Calling someone a racist for being against illegal immigration is the way some liberals help support the policies of anti-working class conservatives.</p>
<p>If businesses need illegal immigrants to work for them, why not make it easier for people to immigrate legally?  Why should businesses get whatever they want at the expense of everyone else?  I suspect that the reason things are the way they are now is because illegal immigrants are easier for employers to exploit.  That means that they are not paid minimum wage and employers do not have to obey any of the few laws in this country that protect workers.  I almost never see this fact discussed by anyone who is supposedly liberal or conservative.  Most of what I have read or heard on this subject has been dishonest for leaving out the obvious facts about this situation.</p>
<p>It may be true that if workers are paid a living wage in this country that prices will go up.  Prices are already going up for other reasons, especially the cherished American value known as greed.  Since the Democratic Party has adopted a platform which favors corporations over workers and consumers, there is no party to represent the less privileged people in the United States.  Mexico and other countries should be responsible for the welfare of their own citizens.  We should not subsidize their irresponsibility.</p>
<p>Conservatives often say they favor a free market without government interference.  When our tax money is used for pork barrel projects and for other subsidies to corporations, such as the proposed guest worker program or tax cuts, only people who are naive or dishonest could ever call that a &#8220;free&#8221; market.</p>
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		<title>By: Wildflower</title>
		<link>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/08/08/new-regulations-same-old-prejudice/#comment-172</link>
		<author>Wildflower</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 05:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/08/08/new-regulations-same-old-prejudice/#comment-172</guid>
					<description>If we grant citizenship to 20 million illegal immigrants, they will no longer be poor destitute people from a country that has failed its citizens in every way, forcing them here in the first place.  
They will be Americans. And they will soon wake up to the low wages and semi-slave labor and join the rest of Americans in wanting a decent pay for a day's work. 
 Then our businesses will cry they need more immigrant labor.  Soon there will be 20 million immigrants to take over their low-paying jobs. Where does it end?
Wouldn't it be better for our country to put pressure on countries like Mexico to provide for their citizens?   Besides having no jobs, these people live in fear of the drug lords in their country. Can't our "mighty" nation do something for these poor people to have a decent life in their own country?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we grant citizenship to 20 million illegal immigrants, they will no longer be poor destitute people from a country that has failed its citizens in every way, forcing them here in the first place.<br />
They will be Americans. And they will soon wake up to the low wages and semi-slave labor and join the rest of Americans in wanting a decent pay for a day&#8217;s work.<br />
 Then our businesses will cry they need more immigrant labor.  Soon there will be 20 million immigrants to take over their low-paying jobs. Where does it end?<br />
Wouldn&#8217;t it be better for our country to put pressure on countries like Mexico to provide for their citizens?   Besides having no jobs, these people live in fear of the drug lords in their country. Can&#8217;t our &#8220;mighty&#8221; nation do something for these poor people to have a decent life in their own country?</p>
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		<title>By: Edwin</title>
		<link>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/08/08/new-regulations-same-old-prejudice/#comment-181</link>
		<author>Edwin</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 04:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spencerspeaks.com/2007/08/08/new-regulations-same-old-prejudice/#comment-181</guid>
					<description>hi i enjoyed the read</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi i enjoyed the read</p>
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